Q:
Three of you have teams that are very much in contention for the
World Championship; the fourth could be a spoiler for the championship
in many ways. What are your feelings, how do you approach the final
races of the year? Is it any different to normal? Are you looking
at your rivals all the time?
RB: It gets more tense. It's inevitable because you have
got the big prize up ahead of you so inevitably tension creeps into
everyone in the team. You have to try and control it and not let
it become a problem, but everyone gets a little bit edgy, you double
check things. We're pretty fastidious in this business anyway, but
everything gets double-checked, everything gets looked at again
and we go through things very carefully. We probably stay an extra
hour in the evening just to make sure. That's what happens, things
become more and more important. Every race is important but it does
start to influence your way of working when you get this close to
a championship.
Q:
Third question is the potentially grey area of team orders or team
tactics? What's your interpretation of it, particularly as they
could come into play during the final three races of the year? Is
it a grey area or is it clear-cut?
RB: I think it is potentially a very difficult area. It's
interesting what Patrick said because a driver is still a member
of a team so he chooses to apply an order himself. I do think the
team can step back and say it was nothing to do with us because
he made that decision because firstly you'd never be able to prove
it, that he was the only one that made that decision. I hope that
we don't get embroiled in all of that but it is very difficult area
and I think that everyone here said at the time when the statement
was made 'no team orders' we need a.. we would like a better definition
of what is no team orders. I think Michael mentioned David and Kimi's
situation at a previous race. Now clearly that's OK, that's acceptable
if you've got drivers on two different strategies and you don't
want one of them to have their race spoiled because he's on one
strategy which requires him to go faster, so we've had a precedent
set that that's an acceptable action, and I can understand that.
But it would be nice to know where the limits are. I guess we're
seen as the cause of this introduction of the regulation but even
so, I think everyone would like to know where the boundaries are.
It's always been at different levels, for centuries. If you've got
two drivers in the last race and one can win the world championship,
you don't want the other guy getting in the way. I think that's
legitimate. If the other guy then tries to take an action which
improves his team-mate's position beyond staying out of the way
then I think that's possibly going over the mark but it's not clear.
Q:
Final question, there have obviously been a lot of stories about
tyres over the last few weeks. What's your feeling about the situation?
RB: I think we touched on earlier that we would all like
black and white regulations and depending at which direction you
come at a regulation from, you can take a certain interpretation.
Obviously our interpretation was not that the tread was constrained
by only being measured when new. With the construction of the regulation
I can understand how someone may wish to interpret that way but
the construction of the regulation was not when it would have said,
furthermore, when new, the tread would be no more than 270. It doesn't
say that. So we had an interpretation which was obviously different
to the Michelin teams. We have a regulatory body..
PH:
Why did you wait for 38 races before raising this point, if you
had this view all the time? It seemed an odd time to raise it Ross.
RB:
That tyre, as I understand it Patrick, you had at Monaco.
PH:
It's exactly the same mould, comes out of exactly the same mould
that appeared in 2001 at Imola.
RB:
Renault used different tyres to you Patrick. There's a range of
Michelins being used in Formula One. We weren't aware of the problem
so any suggestion that we had timed it is inaccurate. Bridgestone
is an extremely ethical company and they were aware of this problem
for some time and didn't raise it to our attention. They were troubled
with how to deal with it, and they came to us after the race in
Hungary and said how can we deal with this problem, because in our
view (Distracting laughing in the audience) Do you have to keep
laughing? Thank you. In our view, they brought the photographs of
the tyre in Hungary and said to us can you explain this to us and
we asked Charlie for an explanation. He said to us he wanted to
investigate it because he didn't understand it. He didn't understand
what he could see on the tyres and went away, and the consequence
was the letter that came out on the Wednesday after Hungary.
PH:
I thought the consequence was a meeting at Maranello on the Tuesday,
of the president of the FIA and the race director.
RB:
As we know, paranoia runs rife in Formula One. Ron, quite rightly,
said you need to look at yourself in the morning and ask yourself
if you've got integrity. That meeting was set up weeks ago and was
a meeting to discuss our business in Formula One. Some of that discussion
has been discussed recently about the schedule that we should run
in Formula One. It's not uncommon for us to have meetings with the
FIA to discuss things. To suggest that meeting was only about the
tyres in fact we were asked not to discuss the tyres with Max and
Charlie when they came, because they said they were dealing with
it. They felt it was inappropriate to discuss the tyres, so I think
to suggest that meeting was only held I don't think Max would break
his schedule to come over to Italy on a Tuesday after a race for
a matter like that. So as I said, there's a huge amount of paranoia
in Formula One. We had an interpretation and we asked the ruling
body for a clarification and that was the clarification they gave
and I think all the suggestions of Machiavellian plots is just the
normal paranoia that runs in Formula One. I do hope the championship
is I think it is a fantastic championship. I don't think this is
going to make a huge difference. It was important to us that we
felt we were competing on a level playing field. As I say, I don't
think it will make a huge difference and I think we've got a great
championship ahead of us. And may the best man win.
Questions
from the floor
Q:
Ross, a week ago you were quoted in Autosport as follows: "It
was an attempt by Michelin to circumnavigate the regulations. It
is now clear that a large number of the Michelin teams have been
running illegal tyres for a considerable amount of time." For
the avoidance of doubt, can you confirm that you did actually make
that remark and, if so, do you still stand by it?
RB:
I think our opinions about the situation have been expressed. I've
given you an explanation here of what happened and we want to try
and run the rest of the championship in the best manner and best
spirit that we can and I don™?™t want to go back over
those comments.
Q:
Ross, according to your comments it looks like wider tyres can provide
quite an advantage so can you explain why Ferrari and Bridgestone
did not take this option of having a bit wider tyres?
RB: You optimise your car, obviously, around the package
you have. You optimise it around the tyres and all the other factors.
Bridgestone had what they felt was a limit on where they were prepared
to go with the wide front tyre from their interpretation of the
regulation. And the difference between where they were prepared
to go to and what we have is very small, it is not a big difference.
So their interpretation of the regulation left not much scope for
anything much different to what we have now. So for us it was no
advantage. We did try some tyres with slightly different shaped
shoulders but as I say Bridgestone felt there was a limit they wanted
to keep to and the difference was very small.
RD:
I think that is somewhat misleading. The simple fact is I am well
qualified, having been on Bridgestone tyres for several years, to
know that Bridgestone always optimise the performance of their tyres
and there is a constant and consistent trend to their belief in
front tyre geometry and how it is constructed and what is the optimum
width. And, of course, a narrow tyre always gives you a better aerodynamic
profile as well. So I think it is misleading of Ross to say it was
a regulatory influence that determined the width of the tyre..
RB:
I didn't actually say that..
RD:
..it was extremely misleading. It was not regulatory driven, it
was performance driven. He knows that very well.
RB:
I didn't say that. What I said is that when they tried a tyre that
they felt was at the limit it was very little different to what
we have now. They do have a tyre that is wider than we have now,
but it is not as wide as the Michelin because they didn't interpret
the regulations that way. So the difference between the tyre they
were able to go to and the tyre we have now offered no benefit.
Q:
Patrick, of all the people in this room you have the longest experience
in a senior technical position in a Grand Prix team and from your
memory have you ever known the FIA to clarify or interpret a regulation
not in favour of Ferrari. And does that lead to a broader problem
in the government of the sport?
RB: Can I interrupt, sorry, but what about all the changes
that were made over the winter? Perhaps he (the journalist) can
enlighten us on the changes that were made over the winter, how
they were in favour of Ferrari..
Q:
In terms of the image of Formula One, Ron was saying that we have
had all the facts on which to judge things. That is not quite true
because we haven't had the facts on what the actual widths were
on the Michelin tyres at the end of races and what they were doing
and how the Michelin tyre was working, that is one element of the
picture that we haven't had to base our judgements on. But given
what has been said over the last ten days, if Montoya wins the championship
the platform for it was built on the 56 points he scored between
Monaco and Hungary and if he wins the championship is it inevitable
that we can only judge that it was a tainted championship?
RB: I think that, as Ron said, let's put water on the fire.
I don't believe for a minute that Michelin were trying to bypass
the regulations. They obviously had an interpretation of what they
felt was acceptable for the tyre and they are not a company that
are going to do something that they knowingly know to be in breach
of the regulations and that is down to interpretation. So I do accept
that Michelin would not have done that knowingly but we have lots
of instances in the past where people have found to have a problem
with their car, or whatever it is, not knowingly. It is still a
problem even though there is no intent. I think there is an important
difference there. I don't think that Michelin intentionally tried
to bypass the regulations but if faced with a situation where there
is a problem it is still a problem even whether there is intent
or not. It is a very technical sport and occasionally you do find
things that you didn't expect to happen. I mean, cars have problems
and often not intentionally. We have had problems with our cars,
Ron had a front wing that was a bit low a few years ago. He didn't
do it intentionally, but it happens. So I think there is an important
distinction there, something I would like to..
RD:
Similar to your bargeboards actually.
RB:
Yes. It is an interesting thing, the bargeboards, in that Ferrari
as a company admitted that they asked the FIA for a clarification.
I don't think to this day McLaren have ever admitted that McLaren
were the ones who told the FIA about our bargeboards.
Q:
Two questions to Ross. There are rumours around the pitlane that
Ferrari might exercise Article 179b of the Sporting Code, the right
of review, retrospective judgement of a result based on new information
that has come to hand. Can you confirm for the good of the championship
that that is not going to happen and secondly can you explain to
us exactly what happened on Friday in Austria when Michael's car
was found to be under the weight limit?
RB: There are these rumours. I don't think Ferrari has
made its position clear and I think that decision is above me to
make. I guess Ferrari will make its position clear in the future
so that is not something I can clarify for you here. (On the second
question) We weren't found underweight because if we had been underweight
we would have been excluded from qualifying and we weren't excluded
so by definition we were not underweight.
Q:
What were you when Michael was first weighed?
RB: I can't recall, but the car was put to one side along
with another car I believe and it was checked and then they were
happy.
Q:
Well, Charlie Whiting said that it was under the weight limit at
that point and then re-checked about 20 minutes later.
RB: Well, obviously they had a reason for believing it
was okay the second time.
Q:
Ross, we understand you didn't really like the old spec Michelin
front tyres, what is your interpretation of the new spec?
RB: I don't know. To me the tread is definable and I know
we are going to disagree on this but to me you can define what the
tread is. And if you make a statement to the FIA that this is your
tread then you need to respect the fact that you have made a statement
that that is your tread. For those of you who care to take the trouble,
the Michelin website on tyres tells you what a tread is, it is the
part of the tyre that is in contact with the ground. They stipulate
what the tread is. So I think it is quite clear what you can and
can't do. Of course, we choose to disagree on that, but I think
understanding the clarification or looking at the press release
the FIA put out it is quite clear what they are expecting in the
future so I am sure Michelin and their teams are going to respect
that enforcement of the regulation.
Q:
Does the FIA have the equipment to check the width after the race?
RB: I think it is a rule. It is not a particularly complex
piece of equipment. They have callipers, I know, that they can check
it with, so I don't think it is a problem.
Q:
Ross, under what circumstances would you protest the earlier results?
RB: It is not really for me to get into that discussion,
I am afraid. It is for the board of Ferrari to decide whether they
want to do that.